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Sierra

Sierra
Joined Jul 2018
Bio

CPAP: AirSense 10 AutoSet

Set to CPAP Fixed Mode

Pressure 11 cm

Ramp: Auto

Ramp Start: 9 cm

EPR: 2, Full Time

Mask: ResMed AirFit P10 Nasal Pillow

Canada

Sierra
Joined Jul 2018
Bio

CPAP: AirSense 10 AutoSet

Set to CPAP Fixed Mode

Pressure 11 cm

Ramp: Auto

Ramp Start: 9 cm

EPR: 2, Full Time

Mask: ResMed AirFit P10 Nasal Pillow

Canada

It would be best to start with posting a screenshot from SleepyHead. You need a PC or Mac with a SD card reader. The software is a free download. There is a basic manual at this link. Basically what I do is look to see what is happening and what events are occurring at higher pressures. If there are more CA events there, then there may be a benefit in lowering pressure. However it is not really that cut and dried. If you see breathing instability with waxing and waning cycles in flow, as well as ups and down in Minute Ventilation, that can be an indication of central related instability. That instability can in turn cause hypopnea and obstructive apnea. About all you can do is zoom in on events that occur at higher pressure and try to figure out what the initiating factor is.

On the low pressure side it is usually simpler. Look for areas when you are getting OA events. If it is when the pressure is at minimum or near it, then there tends to be benefit in increasing minimum pressure. A higher minimum can avoid those events, instead of letting them occur to trigger an auto response to increase pressure. This is a bit of an iterative process and I find it takes a minimum of a week at one setting to determine if it is an improvement or not.

But it would be best to post a SH chart for comments. With the Daily Detail at full screen just press the F12 on a PC and a screen shot image will be saved to a directory which will display briefly in the bottom right. To post it here, open a new message with the Write a Reply button to get a full width window, then drag the saved .png file from Windows Explorer to the open body of the message.

Because you mention EPR and CSR reporting I am assuming you have a ResMed machine? If you post the specific model of machine I could make more specific comments.

In any case your situation sounds similar to mine. I am not a medical professional, but I use a ResMed AirSense 10 AutoSet, and my apnea has been mixed central and obstructive. At the worst the CA to OA ration has been as high as 5 to one. However, overall I have been managing to keep AHI under 5. What has worked for me is do everything possible to keep pressure down. As you have found out, turning off EPR helps because the machine does not have to raise IPAP higher to address apnea that is occurring during or in the transition between IPAP and EPAP (inhale and exhale). I still use EPR at 3, but on Ramp Only. Next I narrowed the range between max pressure and minimum pressure by keeping the maximum as low as possible and by only increasing the minimum. When it got to the point where they were nearly the same, I simply switched to a fixed CPAP pressure. When I was using EPR and a wide max min range, pressures were going as high as 15 cm, and I was seeing lots of CA and some CSR. Now I have gone 6 weeks with a fixed pressure of 11 cm and AHI has a median of about 1.7. I posted a while back about my journey to fixed CPAP mode in this thread. I have been trying to determine if a bit lower or higher than 11 is better, but so far I have not found anything better. Once you go to fixed pressure about all you can do is try small steps and see what you get.

Increasing CSR indications can be a signal that there are some heart issues affecting blood circulation. It is something you should discuss with your GP if they continue.

SleepyHead is very useful in determining when and at what pressure during the night you are having central apnea and CSR events. I also find if you look at the Minute Ventilation value it is good indicator of breathing stability. Central apnea and CSR are most often the result of breathing instability when asleep. You can see it as a roller coaster ride effect in Minute Ventilation.

Hope that helps some,